tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25523756.post5920630240148728909..comments2023-07-09T16:40:34.389+02:00Comments on Networking Eclipse: Just one more word about E4Martin Oberhuberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02195662278064214049noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25523756.post-47643393424062716642008-03-26T19:13:00.000+01:002008-03-26T19:13:00.000+01:00Its great that Wind River folks have pushed this o...Its great that Wind River folks have pushed this openness discussion. Its a healthy discussion for our community to have with the usual caveats of it being respectful and professional of course.<BR/><BR/>Now that we're post-EclipseCon I'm hoping that the original miscommunication is now seen as such. This effort will be judged by the degree to which others step up to participate, and the degree to which the existing committers are open to that. We all need to have faith, approaching this with a new, and hopeful, mindset.Kevin McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18382019837380934474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25523756.post-22428340381243819652008-03-08T17:19:00.000+01:002008-03-08T17:19:00.000+01:00Martin, a lack of openness is not the same as secr...Martin, a lack of openness is not the same as secretiveness. Obviously the two are likely to be perceived as the same, but to actually be secretive, there must be a conscious effort to withhold information. I don't think that's been the case. <BR/><BR/>I often spend my weekends working on some cool idea and if that pans out, I end up committing it. Someone might accuse me of furtively working in secret behind closed doors, when in fact one of my primary motivations is the hope that what I produce will be useful for others.<BR/><BR/>A workshop is a great idea. There's certainly enough interest for one. I wonder if the cost of traveling for a workshop is a filter that will tend to leave out those with less funding. I.e., is a workshop ideal only for the wealthy elite? It's clear that most good intentions can all too easily be cast into doubt.<BR/><BR/>Could it be that the Wind River people are more whiny and have a bigger ax to grind than others? Just a little joke! I'm glad the Wind River folks have spoken out. I think this will help ensure that something like this never happens again.<BR/><BR/>You raise the issue of the strategic members' opinions which to my thinking begs the question of whether the information shared at the board was a topic of discussion at Wind River? I suspect it was and that you folks planned to get involved once the issue was made public to the general pubic rather than just to the board-confidential public. I can imagine that the announcement which so glaringly excluded you was seen as a slap in the face.<BR/><BR/>I'm encouraged to see that the folks at Wind River are indeed so passionate on this topic. It bodes well for the success of an e4 effort, whatever it turns out to be. I would encourage you to put the unintended slight behind you.Ed Merkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767888750692843294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25523756.post-68546972130802497602008-03-08T00:49:00.000+01:002008-03-08T00:49:00.000+01:00+1 on p2 being the most open project in the platfo...+1 on p2 being the most open project in the platform. Pascal and Jeff and the others have done a great job of reaching out to the community and involving them from day one.<BR/><BR/>And, yes, chrizx, a workshop is how most new work at Eclipse get started. And this should be no exception.Doug Schaeferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14981089996236658262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25523756.post-1792663662564201652008-03-07T22:50:00.000+01:002008-03-07T22:50:00.000+01:00I think a workshop is in order after EclipseCon.I think a workshop is in order after EclipseCon.Chris Aniszczyk (zx)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14067673601779593093noreply@blogger.com